On this very special episode of the Somewhat Frank Podcast, Frank Gruber (X: @FrankGruber), John Guidos (IG: @jgoodtimes83), and Simon Kahan (IG: @simonkahan) talk with Garrett Graff about his book “UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government’s Search for Alien Life Here – and Out There.” 

For those unfamiliar, Garrett has spent nearly two decades covering politics, technology, and national security. He is also the former editor of Politico and contributor to Wired and CNN, he’s written for publications from Esquire to Rolling Stone to The New York Times and today serves as the director of the cyber initiative at the Aspen Institute. 

Graff is also the author of multiple books, including the FBI history The Threat Matrix, Raven Rock (about the government’s Cold War Doomsday plans), When the Sea Came Alive (an oral history of D-Day), and the New York Times bestsellers The Only Plane in the Sky, and Watergate, which was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize in History. Learn more about Garrett the the following link: www.garrettgraff.com 

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